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		<title>By: natalie l. kilkenny</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/comment-page-1/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>natalie l. kilkenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#Teachers are Dinosaurs: http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#Teachers are Dinosaurs: <a href="http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Run and hide, students! Your teachers are dinosaurs! 

http://bit.ly/7f1GdO via @edufire  @KirstenWinkler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Run and hide, students! Your teachers are dinosaurs! </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/7f1GdO" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7f1GdO</a> via @edufire  @KirstenWinkler</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/teachers-are-dinosaurs/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brenda,&lt;br&gt;my teaching experience is scattered in different blog posts :). I made an &quot;About&quot; page for this blog when I started it in January but that does not cover everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To give you a short overview: I started as a classic teacher and taught languages to teenagers, group and 1o1. After I moved to France I specialized on adults again teaching groups and 1o1. All this was classic offline f2f. All in all I am teaching for about 8 years now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In late 2007 early 2008 I started to teach more and more online and today over 90% of my clients are online across the globe. Their levels reach from total beginner to advanced.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2010 I will launch some new projects, outsourcing content from this blog into new ones. And a big part of 2010 will be dedicated to the shift and how we can adjust our teaching to it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I hope I will be able to answer those questions soon. Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brenda,<br />my teaching experience is scattered in different blog posts <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I made an &#8220;About&#8221; page for this blog when I started it in January but that does not cover everything.</p>
<p>To give you a short overview: I started as a classic teacher and taught languages to teenagers, group and 1o1. After I moved to France I specialized on adults again teaching groups and 1o1. All this was classic offline f2f. All in all I am teaching for about 8 years now.</p>
<p>In late 2007 early 2008 I started to teach more and more online and today over 90% of my clients are online across the globe. Their levels reach from total beginner to advanced.</p>
<p>In 2010 I will launch some new projects, outsourcing content from this blog into new ones. And a big part of 2010 will be dedicated to the shift and how we can adjust our teaching to it.</p>
<p>So I hope I will be able to answer those questions soon. Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda </title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kirsten, &lt;br&gt;I&#039;m trying to find it on your blog...what is your teaching experience?&lt;br&gt;I like your big ideas, but it would be great for you to share the practical side about your own experience teaching online with your own students. &lt;br&gt;What grade are they?  How are you integrating the good stuff from f2f teaching with your online classes?&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;Brenda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kirsten, <br />I&#39;m trying to find it on your blog&#8230;what is your teaching experience?<br />I like your big ideas, but it would be great for you to share the practical side about your own experience teaching online with your own students. <br />What grade are they?  How are you integrating the good stuff from f2f teaching with your online classes?<br />Thanks,<br />Brenda</p>
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		<title>By: chinamike</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinamike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to teaching I agree, today&#039;s tools really don&#039;t really improve on what a teacher can do in a classroom in whatever role (I really think the Guide on the Side is far superior to the Sage on the Stage beginning at the high beginner level).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where digital tools really show their merit however is when students leave the classroom and study on their own. MP3s let students listen to native speakers anywhere, Spaced Repetition Programs (SRS) help aid and support memories making supercharged memories possible, DVDs let us watch the natives in the wild, and the Internet lets us read news in the language our choice. We can do ALL OF THIS away from the teacher. We are no longer need be tethered to a teacher under a baobao tree and we are no longer be limited by the speed the other 199 students are moving through the material with us under the shade of that tree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Digital tools create autonomy and teachers who understand that and leverage that will succeed in teaching students far faster than what is possible under your tree. As teachers we need to understand-- these tools are to make teaching easier they are to make learning better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to teaching I agree, today&#39;s tools really don&#39;t really improve on what a teacher can do in a classroom in whatever role (I really think the Guide on the Side is far superior to the Sage on the Stage beginning at the high beginner level).</p>
<p>Where digital tools really show their merit however is when students leave the classroom and study on their own. MP3s let students listen to native speakers anywhere, Spaced Repetition Programs (SRS) help aid and support memories making supercharged memories possible, DVDs let us watch the natives in the wild, and the Internet lets us read news in the language our choice. We can do ALL OF THIS away from the teacher. We are no longer need be tethered to a teacher under a baobao tree and we are no longer be limited by the speed the other 199 students are moving through the material with us under the shade of that tree.</p>
<p>Digital tools create autonomy and teachers who understand that and leverage that will succeed in teaching students far faster than what is possible under your tree. As teachers we need to understand&#8211; these tools are to make teaching easier they are to make learning better.</p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can the children in the back see what you are drawing in the sand? In a virtual classroom everyone is sitting in the front row ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the great thing is that you can actually teach 10 children under the Baobab tree in the future. I agree that people need somekind of leadership, someone you can turn to with specific questions, e.g. someone who still knows more than you do but I don&#039;t think that you need to be a sage on the stage for it, more the wise man on the mountain. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thing is that the shift will actually help educators to concentrate more on their core competences and to specialize themselves more than they can do now. Also if the students are already well prepared when they join your teaching you can skip all the boring stuff you need to &quot;waste time&quot; on in the class today and go staright forward to the creative part.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That of course will mean that educators / tutors / teachers / guides, whatever you want to call them, need totally different skill sets than today. Being open minded, multi interested and accessible are only three factors that already sort out a lot of today&#039;s educators, right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;About the 80% drop out, yes, that is a problem today but there might be various reasons for this. I don&#039;t think that this will last when students get more used to the fact that a big part of their life, studies and later on work will be online.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are just at the beginning but try to explain someone who joined the internet this year how it &quot;used to be&quot; in 2008 without everyone being on Twitter or Facebook. What did we do &quot;back then&quot;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And about children studying online. Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mingoville.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mingoville.com&lt;/a&gt; the problem they might have lies in the other direction, how to get them off the internet and stop learning English ;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The old days are gone, never to return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the children in the back see what you are drawing in the sand? In a virtual classroom everyone is sitting in the front row <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think the great thing is that you can actually teach 10 children under the Baobab tree in the future. I agree that people need somekind of leadership, someone you can turn to with specific questions, e.g. someone who still knows more than you do but I don&#39;t think that you need to be a sage on the stage for it, more the wise man on the mountain. </p>
<p>The thing is that the shift will actually help educators to concentrate more on their core competences and to specialize themselves more than they can do now. Also if the students are already well prepared when they join your teaching you can skip all the boring stuff you need to &#8220;waste time&#8221; on in the class today and go staright forward to the creative part.</p>
<p>That of course will mean that educators / tutors / teachers / guides, whatever you want to call them, need totally different skill sets than today. Being open minded, multi interested and accessible are only three factors that already sort out a lot of today&#39;s educators, right?</p>
<p>About the 80% drop out, yes, that is a problem today but there might be various reasons for this. I don&#39;t think that this will last when students get more used to the fact that a big part of their life, studies and later on work will be online.</p>
<p>We are just at the beginning but try to explain someone who joined the internet this year how it &#8220;used to be&#8221; in 2008 without everyone being on Twitter or Facebook. What did we do &#8220;back then&#8221;?</p>
<p>And about children studying online. Take a look at <a href="http://www.mingoville.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mingoville.com</a> the problem they might have lies in the other direction, how to get them off the internet and stop learning English <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>The old days are gone, never to return.</p>
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		<title>By: devils advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>devils advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the extinction metaphor but am concerned about the idea that the &#039;cloud of data&#039; that is the internet is sufficiently organised to provide a clear learning path for language study. Try it for yourself - choose a language you don&#039;t know (complicate it if you wish by choosing one with a different alphabet or coding system) and see how effective the internet is in helping you learn. I am sure that &#039;courses&#039; will be offered (and already are) that promise &#039;perfik Engrish at 30 dayes&#039; and we all know how much use they are too. But with universities such as MIT offering a plethora of online courses someone somewhere has to produce the material. Teachers may well become materials producers and updaters and the lucky ones may get to do research on what is happening &#039;out there&#039; in cyberspace. Currently the drop out rate from online courses is 80% (check the facts with names like Prensky, Quinn) and so there is something that teachers need to learn to do fast if they want to stay in the game. I think there will always be a market for a &#039;sage on the stage&#039; - human nature seems to dictate that we need authority figures, live, human encouragement and cajoling to make us make the effort to succeed. And someone out there setting the goals, the qualifications and all the paraphenalia that goes with &#039;achievement&#039;. Few of us are sufficiently self-motivated enough to study online (including children) let alone take their education completely from this &#039;revolution&#039;. Whatever dis-intermediation is, I don&#039;t think it will reduce educational institutions to rubble - there is too much at stake to let that happen. As an EFL techer I am already required to be adept at using some pretty high-tech equipment to teach with which 30 years ago would have only been a dream. More importantly, I can teach 200 children under a baobab tree by drawing with a stick in the sand...I will tell you that these children learnt faster and more accurately than the high-tech supported students. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the extinction metaphor but am concerned about the idea that the &#39;cloud of data&#39; that is the internet is sufficiently organised to provide a clear learning path for language study. Try it for yourself &#8211; choose a language you don&#39;t know (complicate it if you wish by choosing one with a different alphabet or coding system) and see how effective the internet is in helping you learn. I am sure that &#39;courses&#39; will be offered (and already are) that promise &#39;perfik Engrish at 30 dayes&#39; and we all know how much use they are too. But with universities such as MIT offering a plethora of online courses someone somewhere has to produce the material. Teachers may well become materials producers and updaters and the lucky ones may get to do research on what is happening &#39;out there&#39; in cyberspace. Currently the drop out rate from online courses is 80% (check the facts with names like Prensky, Quinn) and so there is something that teachers need to learn to do fast if they want to stay in the game. I think there will always be a market for a &#39;sage on the stage&#39; &#8211; human nature seems to dictate that we need authority figures, live, human encouragement and cajoling to make us make the effort to succeed. And someone out there setting the goals, the qualifications and all the paraphenalia that goes with &#39;achievement&#39;. Few of us are sufficiently self-motivated enough to study online (including children) let alone take their education completely from this &#39;revolution&#39;. Whatever dis-intermediation is, I don&#39;t think it will reduce educational institutions to rubble &#8211; there is too much at stake to let that happen. As an EFL techer I am already required to be adept at using some pretty high-tech equipment to teach with which 30 years ago would have only been a dream. More importantly, I can teach 200 children under a baobab tree by drawing with a stick in the sand&#8230;I will tell you that these children learnt faster and more accurately than the high-tech supported students. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!</p>
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		<title>By: jasonoutthere</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonoutthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whole-heartedly. In some ways the classroom has been used as both a crutch and a means of control. Confining learning experiences to the classroom limits our potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole-heartedly. In some ways the classroom has been used as both a crutch and a means of control. Confining learning experiences to the classroom limits our potential.</p>
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		<title>By: jasonoutthere</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonoutthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yer know what I meant!  Tools :-)  Flexibility and practicality. We all have to learn to use so many types of software and lots of files formats don&#039;t like working with some platforms and organisations/websites peg their efforts to one system of another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yer know what I meant!  Tools <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Flexibility and practicality. We all have to learn to use so many types of software and lots of files formats don&#39;t like working with some platforms and organisations/websites peg their efforts to one system of another.</p>
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		<title>By: rainbowhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>rainbowhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought a pen and paper was &#039;hardware&#039;, but then again I&#039;m no expert.</description>
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