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		<title>By: vickidhiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>vickidhiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for organizing the second ETCon. It was a great learning experience to hear Bernard, Kevin, Jason and yourself as well as listen to the discussions. It highlighted many issues. I think getting people from industry together monthly is a great way to bring ideas and thoughts for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for organizing the second ETCon. It was a great learning experience to hear Bernard, Kevin, Jason and yourself as well as listen to the discussions. It highlighted many issues. I think getting people from industry together monthly is a great way to bring ideas and thoughts for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: bridge2english</title>
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		<dc:creator>bridge2english</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirsten, congratulations! &lt;br&gt;It was a fantastic public class and it deserves to be called Master Class. &lt;br&gt;I have watched the recording of it for the second time to digest all the information presented at ETCon. My wish is that it becomes a tradition for discussion of major problems in the field of online learning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I would have to mention only one citation from the ETCon meeting I would select the quotation from Kevin Chen (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.italki.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.italki.com&lt;/a&gt; ): &lt;br&gt;“Language learning is not a typical subject&lt;br&gt;•	In addition to knowledge, it takes practice, skill&lt;br&gt;•	Playing an instrument&lt;br&gt;•	Language learning is about communication&lt;br&gt;•	Can&#039;t do it alone” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would like to paraphrase it: Language learning is not a subject at all. &lt;br&gt;Without accounting this concept no language learning portal will show a real breakthrough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with you “that courses and content can be made by a community”. &lt;br&gt;However, a doubt settled down in my mind. I recollected a phrase I have heard many years ago: before making any public polls studies one should educate the public first - otherwise it becomes a poll of ignorance. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is another obstacle: community as a rule is resilient to any innovation because of inertia and a notion: “it is unknown to the public”.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirsten, your presentation was very innovative; I especially like your notion that online learning portals should have an idea and a leader. Unfortunately, most of them have an idea but not a leader who would apply his knowledge and vision to educate the community before suggesting a new content to them or using the community to create this new content.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looking forward to the next Master Class,&lt;br&gt;Arkady Zilberman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirsten, congratulations! <br />It was a fantastic public class and it deserves to be called Master Class. <br />I have watched the recording of it for the second time to digest all the information presented at ETCon. My wish is that it becomes a tradition for discussion of major problems in the field of online learning.</p>
<p>If I would have to mention only one citation from the ETCon meeting I would select the quotation from Kevin Chen (<a href="http://www.italki.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.italki.com</a> ): <br />“Language learning is not a typical subject<br />•	In addition to knowledge, it takes practice, skill<br />•	Playing an instrument<br />•	Language learning is about communication<br />•	Can&#39;t do it alone” </p>
<p>I would like to paraphrase it: Language learning is not a subject at all. <br />Without accounting this concept no language learning portal will show a real breakthrough.</p>
<p>I agree with you “that courses and content can be made by a community”. <br />However, a doubt settled down in my mind. I recollected a phrase I have heard many years ago: before making any public polls studies one should educate the public first &#8211; otherwise it becomes a poll of ignorance. </p>
<p>There is another obstacle: community as a rule is resilient to any innovation because of inertia and a notion: “it is unknown to the public”.</p>
<p>Kirsten, your presentation was very innovative; I especially like your notion that online learning portals should have an idea and a leader. Unfortunately, most of them have an idea but not a leader who would apply his knowledge and vision to educate the community before suggesting a new content to them or using the community to create this new content.</p>
<p>Looking forward to the next Master Class,<br />Arkady Zilberman</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly S Terrell</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/personal-review-of-the-second-e-teachers-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelly S Terrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @MissShonah: RT @KirstenWinkler: New Blog Post: My Personal Review of the second E-Teachers Conference http://bit.ly/S4tt0 #ETCon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @MissShonah: RT @KirstenWinkler: New Blog Post: My Personal Review of the second E-Teachers Conference <a href="http://bit.ly/S4tt0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/S4tt0</a> #ETCon</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: italki</title>
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		<dc:creator>italki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @KirstenWinkler: New Blog Post: My Personal Review of the second E-Teachers Conference http://bit.ly/S4tt0 #ETCon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Shelly S Terrell</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/personal-review-of-the-second-e-teachers-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelly S Terrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @TheEngTeacher: Personal Review of the second E-Teachers Conference via @kirstenwinkler #followfriday http://viigo.im/0IC8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Kirsten Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsten Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New Blog Post: My Personal Review of the second E-Teachers Conference http://bit.ly/S4tt0 #ETCon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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