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	<title>Comments on: No Free Lunch Part III &#8211; Ning axes Free Networks</title>
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		<title>By: How Teachers Took Over the Internet In 2011 &#171; 2tor, Inc.</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-4174</link>
		<dc:creator>How Teachers Took Over the Internet In 2011 &#171; 2tor, Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] biggest ones with tens of thousands of teachers and principals as members. When Ning decided to axe the free plan that most teacher and school networks were built on, there was quite an uproar resulting to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] biggest ones with tens of thousands of teachers and principals as members. When Ning decided to axe the free plan that most teacher and school networks were built on, there was quite an uproar resulting to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VOMIChairman</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>VOMIChairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 05:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Free&quot; was never really free in the first place.  It was always intended to be a &quot;brilliant, [mutually beneficial] business model&quot; disguised with the FREE label.   It is still a &quot;brilliant&quot; business model, however, it requires a TITANIUM SCREW in its infrastructure instead of the STANDARD STEEL SCREW.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wrote an article titled &quot;Open Letter to NING CEO, Jason Rosenthal:: The Ghosts of NING Past, Present, and Future&quot; on the Virtual Organization Management Institute blog at  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtualorganization.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.virtualorganization.net&lt;/a&gt;  which goes into more detail about the TITANIUM SCREW I am referring to.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As well, next week, I am posting a very detailed article on the &quot;FREE&quot; fallacy that the general public has been bombarded with. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Emil Sarnogoev of &lt;a href=&quot;http://WackWall.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WackWall.com&lt;/a&gt; is a genius--although he doesn&#039;t know it yet--and his approach to the NING debacle is spot on...the FREEDOM concept is  very ingenious and should be the model by which all other &quot;so-called FREE&quot; social network providers abide by.   Before you make any investment into one of these FREE social network providers, that provider has a DUTY and RESPONSIBILITY to allow you to take all your stuff with you wherever you want to go without being faced with only one option:  Succumb to whatever it is that they decide to impose on you or just watch all your investment in time and effort [[on their behalf]] as well as on your own network go down the drain in a split second.     &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was so impressed by his logic that I went to OpenWack, the open source developer of the software that powers WackWall, and made a $10 Paypal donation and I am going to recommend his company in my article to all 300,000 members of my networks and that they make a donation as well, whether it&#039;s a $1 or whatever it is that they can afford. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, I just came across WackWall by accident while I was on &lt;a href=&quot;http://SPRUZ.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SPRUZ.com&lt;/a&gt;, an alternative to NING, and noticed a blog reference to wackwall.   I almost started to ignore it, thinking I wouldn&#039;t want to have the word &quot;wack&quot; in my address....seems a bit wacky...however,  the minute I got to the site, I fell in love with it, etc.... In other words, prior to today, I do not and have never had any sort of direct or indirect relationship or association with Emil or any of his companies.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I only believe in rewarding good behavior and WackWall&#039;s business model and philosophy meets that treshold.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prof. Pierre Coupet&lt;br&gt;Virtual Organization Management Institute&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just wish that NING had come out and say that they were under severe financial stress and would probably have to lay off about 50 people who would no longer have a job and that the &quot;so-called FREE&quot; members could make a contribution via a small Paypal donation at anytime in order to keep them on board working hard and continuing to provide outstanding support to ALL the members.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Knowing the American people as well as I do, I can bet my last dollar that the outpouring of support to NING would be overwhelming.  I would have contributed and so would millions of others, including  premium customers who could afford to do so.   The bottom line is: there is more than one way to skin a cat and there are plenty of ways to generate &quot;additional&quot; revenues from the so-called FREE customers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People, for the most part, are generally good and very sensible instead of a bunch of &quot;cheap, whining, and irresponsible freeloaders&quot; that they are being portrayed as and which is so much farther away from the truth.  Next week&#039;s article will make my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Free&#8221; was never really free in the first place.  It was always intended to be a &#8220;brilliant, [mutually beneficial] business model&#8221; disguised with the FREE label.   It is still a &#8220;brilliant&#8221; business model, however, it requires a TITANIUM SCREW in its infrastructure instead of the STANDARD STEEL SCREW.    </p>
<p>I wrote an article titled &#8220;Open Letter to NING CEO, Jason Rosenthal:: The Ghosts of NING Past, Present, and Future&#8221; on the Virtual Organization Management Institute blog at  <a href="http://www.virtualorganization.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualorganization.net</a>  which goes into more detail about the TITANIUM SCREW I am referring to.  </p>
<p>As well, next week, I am posting a very detailed article on the &#8220;FREE&#8221; fallacy that the general public has been bombarded with. </p>
<p>Emil Sarnogoev of <a href="http://WackWall.com" rel="nofollow">WackWall.com</a> is a genius&#8211;although he doesn&#39;t know it yet&#8211;and his approach to the NING debacle is spot on&#8230;the FREEDOM concept is  very ingenious and should be the model by which all other &#8220;so-called FREE&#8221; social network providers abide by.   Before you make any investment into one of these FREE social network providers, that provider has a DUTY and RESPONSIBILITY to allow you to take all your stuff with you wherever you want to go without being faced with only one option:  Succumb to whatever it is that they decide to impose on you or just watch all your investment in time and effort [[on their behalf]] as well as on your own network go down the drain in a split second.     </p>
<p>I was so impressed by his logic that I went to OpenWack, the open source developer of the software that powers WackWall, and made a $10 Paypal donation and I am going to recommend his company in my article to all 300,000 members of my networks and that they make a donation as well, whether it&#39;s a $1 or whatever it is that they can afford. </p>
<p>By the way, I just came across WackWall by accident while I was on <a href="http://SPRUZ.com" rel="nofollow">SPRUZ.com</a>, an alternative to NING, and noticed a blog reference to wackwall.   I almost started to ignore it, thinking I wouldn&#39;t want to have the word &#8220;wack&#8221; in my address&#8230;.seems a bit wacky&#8230;however,  the minute I got to the site, I fell in love with it, etc&#8230;. In other words, prior to today, I do not and have never had any sort of direct or indirect relationship or association with Emil or any of his companies.  </p>
<p>I only believe in rewarding good behavior and WackWall&#39;s business model and philosophy meets that treshold.    </p>
<p>Prof. Pierre Coupet<br />Virtual Organization Management Institute</p>
<p>I just wish that NING had come out and say that they were under severe financial stress and would probably have to lay off about 50 people who would no longer have a job and that the &#8220;so-called FREE&#8221; members could make a contribution via a small Paypal donation at anytime in order to keep them on board working hard and continuing to provide outstanding support to ALL the members.   </p>
<p>Knowing the American people as well as I do, I can bet my last dollar that the outpouring of support to NING would be overwhelming.  I would have contributed and so would millions of others, including  premium customers who could afford to do so.   The bottom line is: there is more than one way to skin a cat and there are plenty of ways to generate &#8220;additional&#8221; revenues from the so-called FREE customers. </p>
<p>People, for the most part, are generally good and very sensible instead of a bunch of &#8220;cheap, whining, and irresponsible freeloaders&#8221; that they are being portrayed as and which is so much farther away from the truth.  Next week&#39;s article will make my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 23:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For educational social networks you could give &lt;a href=&quot;http://mixxt.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mixxt.com&lt;/a&gt; a try. It is a free alternative to Ning and offers full collaboration features like wikis, add-files, image albums, and a sophisticated file system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other prominent advantages are mixxt&#039;s strong Community Management features, powerful sub-groups, full collaboration features, and advanced customization.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mixxt&#039;s philosophy is different from Ning&#039;s: it&#039;s based on White Labeled solutions for large institutions and enterprises, as well as Freemium services. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to import your Ning network to mixxt, find a useful tool in mixxt&#039;s Ning importer (&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/ningalt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/ningalt&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can try out your own free mixxt network by checking out this site (&lt;a href=&quot;http://mixxt.com%29%21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mixxt.com)!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For educational social networks you could give <a href="http://mixxt.com" rel="nofollow">mixxt.com</a> a try. It is a free alternative to Ning and offers full collaboration features like wikis, add-files, image albums, and a sophisticated file system.</p>
<p>Other prominent advantages are mixxt&#39;s strong Community Management features, powerful sub-groups, full collaboration features, and advanced customization.</p>
<p>mixxt&#39;s philosophy is different from Ning&#39;s: it&#39;s based on White Labeled solutions for large institutions and enterprises, as well as Freemium services. </p>
<p>If you want to import your Ning network to mixxt, find a useful tool in mixxt&#39;s Ning importer (<a href="http://bit.ly/ningalt" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ningalt</a>).</p>
<p>You can try out your own free mixxt network by checking out this site (<a href="http://mixxt.com%29%21" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://mixxt.com" rel="nofollow">http://mixxt.com</a>)!</p>
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		<title>By: mixxt</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>mixxt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A real Ning-Import and the migration survey...&lt;/strong&gt;

The wild search for alternatives to Ning is keeping many social network creators more than busy, especially in the educational sector. Migrating your social network from Ning is a daunting task. Several services have rushed to offer you a &#8220;Ning-I...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A real Ning-Import and the migration survey&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The wild search for alternatives to Ning is keeping many social network creators more than busy, especially in the educational sector. Migrating your social network from Ning is a daunting task. Several services have rushed to offer you a &#8220;Ning-I&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Emil Sarnogoev</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Sarnogoev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our business model is fremium similar to what Ning offered initially - extra storage + some premium features. Open source version is just a nice plan B, and is also a separate, different business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our business model is fremium similar to what Ning offered initially &#8211; extra storage + some premium features. Open source version is just a nice plan B, and is also a separate, different business model.</p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your business model is basically offering hosting for those who don&#039;t want to set up a server on their own, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your business model is basically offering hosting for those who don&#39;t want to set up a server on their own, right?</p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the Twitter stream of the edu world according Ning they are all on the search for the next free alternative. The caravane moves on :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the Twitter stream of the edu world according Ning they are all on the search for the next free alternative. The caravane moves on <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. If Facebook would take only $1 USD per month and only 10% of the members today would agree, the platform would still generate $5 million USD per month :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. If Facebook would take only $1 USD per month and only 10% of the members today would agree, the platform would still generate $5 million USD per month <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hollysuel</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>hollysuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess this doesn&#039;t really surprise me and it will be interesting to see what ning sites from the language teaching world will still be there when this happens. I, personally, have left most of the ning sites that I wasn&#039;t actively part of because there were just way too many on offer.  I&#039;m pretty sure that most of the sites that I still belong to will remain, but it will be interesting to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this doesn&#39;t really surprise me and it will be interesting to see what ning sites from the language teaching world will still be there when this happens. I, personally, have left most of the ning sites that I wasn&#39;t actively part of because there were just way too many on offer.  I&#39;m pretty sure that most of the sites that I still belong to will remain, but it will be interesting to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis George Machlan</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/no-free-lunch-part-iii-ning-axes-free-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis George Machlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I presented a rather sophmoric model of how I thought we could build a holistic learning community, please FF to minute 18:30 to see the actual model I proposed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wiziq.com/online-class/264727-the-wiziq-wealth-machine-inroduction&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wiziq.com/online-class/264727-the-wi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the very end I present the last &quot;missing link&quot; of the puzzle, which is that some money even pennies are the lifeblood of the organism we are trying to build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I presented a rather sophmoric model of how I thought we could build a holistic learning community, please FF to minute 18:30 to see the actual model I proposed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wiziq.com/online-class/264727-the-wiziq-wealth-machine-inroduction" rel="nofollow">http://www.wiziq.com/online-class/264727-the-wi&#8230;</a></p>
<p>At the very end I present the last &#8220;missing link&#8221; of the puzzle, which is that some money even pennies are the lifeblood of the organism we are trying to build.</p>
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