Myngle now ahead by a beak?

Yesterday, I received one of the new and regularly coming News Bulletins from the Myngle education team. Normally you can get the news by reading the email for gist but this one caught my attention as it presents some substantial additions to the platform.

In fact the coming changes could give Myngle a lead over its competitors.

Those changes will basically turn Myngle from a teacher-student (controlled & regulated) marketplace to a more elaborated platform like WiZiQ, Sclipo or Udemy nowadays are already. And that is pretty huge.

1- You will be able to add asynchronous learning resources, which can be used by the students before or after their classes:

- You will be able to add podcasts, flashcards, youtube videos, games, newspapers to your courses
- You will be able to upload pdf, doc, ppt to your courses.
- You will be able to record your Podcasts in the library so you can add them to your courses.
- You will be able to link and add any content already present in the library to your course or add content from Myngle shop (shop.myngle.com).
2- You can offer these resources for free or paid.
3- These resources can be set as private ( for yout students who are studying this course) or publish so any student can use them or buy them if you set a price.
4- In the payment page, the student will have the option to buy your lesson(s) and/or your “extra study resource”.
5- Last but not least, now course and lesson description will support more formatting styles such as paragraphs, bullet points, bold, underline.

I think you can all see the benefits quite clearly. Myngle currently have the advantage over some competitors that their platform has regular lessons going on and that it has managed to build a loyal base of teachers who are willing to work “under the conditions” presented. The secret sauce of Myngle is the fact that they actually get teachers into earning money. One can argue about the pricing issues (as I did in length) and the fact that Myngle chose a controlled environment (also discussed in depth) but to some teachers this all seems to be alright if not even favorable.

So, the interesting part will be if those teachers are the ones who will invest extra time to brush up their courses with extra material or if it is sufficient for them to earn something aside the way they do now. The system that WiZiQ, Sclipo and Udemy chose is clearly targeted to edupreneurs who want to get the max revenue out of their students / clients which also means that they want to minimize their own costs and have a maximum of control.

Hence, I could even imagine that we see some teachers who are not really successful working on those platforms changing camps and sign up on Myngle. The benefits like the regular boost which still seems to attract students and the fact that Myngle actually has paying students on the platform are arguments you cannot ignore and may help to accept working in a walled garden.

One can argue that on the one hand Myngle targets teachers who prefer to work under more controlled but therefore also secure conditions but generally those teachers teach to earn some extra money and not full time in order to make a living on it at least when they come from Europe or the US. Of course teachers who live in developing countries like the Philipines, North Africa, India, South America etc can actually make a decent living on the rates and we all know that the ESL market is heavily under pressure from the Philipines as teachers from there are generally seen as native speakers in countries like South Korea and of course an English teacher from the US/UK cannot compete with the rates those teachers take. But that is a whole different story.

In the end we have to see how teachers embrace the new tools and then how students react on extra content. Many teachers might now offer this extra content for free as it can be used as a loop hole to differentiate themselves from other teachers at the low end of the pricing list now that Myngle plugged the leak by setting the minimum fee to 9 Euro per 30 minutes. Also Myngle needs to verify the material uploaded in order to avoid copyright infringements etc. but that is something every platform has to struggle with as soon as it allows content to be hosted.

I guess, as always, time will tell. But the move is a right one taking into account the course structure of most Myngle teachers is targeting beginner to intermediate students and therefore clearly not conversational focused. Now it is up to the Myngle teachers to make use of the tools. 

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  • stivibi

    Thank you Kirsten for spreading the good news. We hope to have the feature ready to go mid-week. We hope it will help the students have a more complete learning experience and for teachers (and Myngle) to earn accordingly. If you test it out or hear from other teachers directly who have create/adapted their courses, don't hesitate to give us some additional feedback.

    Stefan
    Myngle.com

    • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

      I think I will give it a try ;)

      • chinamike

        This is a fantastic development for Myngle teachers. It changes things for the better in so many ways and I do expect it will attract a new group of teachers like you said. I am curious about one thing. If teachers charge for their materials separately will Myngle be asking for the same slice of the pie?

        • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

          I would be surprised if not.

    • chinamike

      Stefan,

      Some of those materials will get stopped trying to pass into China. I don't know how the great firewall is built but perhaps you don't want to get put on a list of sites that is sending frequently blocked materials to users in China. On the other hand you haven't probably already thought about this…..

      • stivibi

        Thanks Mike for the reminder. I don't if anyone has figured out when and what the great wall stops something. But it is certainly something to keep in mind… I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

        • http://twitter.com/MyESLfriends George Machlan

          I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the “Great Firewall” of China. I am satisfied that all portals which embrace an open economy of ideas will fall to it sooner or later. Most of my students and schools that I have been associated with are in China. I originally found a co-sponsored (China and US Universities) site for storing my support materials. http://www.archive.org

          I spent a lot of time gathering stuff from many sources. Even JenniferESL allowed me to upload all of her videos there. About a month ago that site was blocked. They had a lot of materials being uploaded that was contrary to China policies.

          I am currently heavily invested (time and effort) in WIZIQ. I am pretty sure, due to their openness (e.g. religious classes and even Satanic classes) that it is only a matter of time before it is blocked also. The problem is that I don't blame them from wanting to block some of the garbage that Western culture spews.

          I have recently converted all of my sites to a new wordpress site. And, have started self hosting all of my support materials. I think I can stay within their censure's guidelines now. The problem now is the local and individual university firewalls. While the students are savy enough to get around many strictures, I am still concerned with getting them into trouble.

          Don't know if that helps you. Good luck with your portal.

          PS here is my new China Friendly site:
          http://www.myeslfriends.com

          We just went into beta of “Karaoke ESL” I guarantee that students will have fun and that they will be able to sing English. It is yet to be seen if they will be able to speak it ;-)

          • stivibi

            George thank you for sharing your experience. Very insightful.
            I also like your ESL efforts. Pretty awesome. I'm sharing the info with our CTO as I start getting headaches when it comes to figuring this stuff out… ;-) I sure appreciate you taking the time to share this stuff. Best of luck to you as well.

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  • http://twitter.com/MyESLfriends George Machlan

    Once again you very clear and concise. It hurts a little that you are so enamoured of this platform. I frankly am surprised that you have left your edupunk calling so quickly and embraced rules and control for the promise of money. In any case, you are fair and very balanced in your evaluation. Even when I don't like what you say, I feel like you have brought me news that I need to listen to and consider.

    Thanks again, but I will stay with the most open and free market… WIZIQ. Viva Le revolution!

    • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

      George, if you read this blog from the beginning you will notice that it is, was and will be about making money with online education. Edupunk is not about starving in the streets or living under bridges. It's about changing education to the better and making it affordable to as many people as possible.

      Secondly you will notice that I and Myngle have a long and stony relationship :) , infact I am one of the first teachers who signed up on Myngle two years ago.

      And finally, you guys need to start making money using the WiZiQ platform. It is your obligation as a teacher who uses this system because WiZiQ is like Myngle a profit oriented business which relies on the commissions they earn through their teachers. Remember, there is no free lunch.

      • http://twitter.com/MyESLfriends George Machlan

        I keep forgetting that you cannot see my smirk as I am writing. I did want to be testy but not confrontational. Please accept my sincere appology. I was just trying to stir things up. I do trust you.

        George

        • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

          You don't need to appologize :) I love a lively discussion. Nevertheless I think that WiZiQ needs to force more teachers to get into paid classes, the more the better ;)

      • stivibi

        ;-)
        Good times…

        • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

          Long time marriage ;)

    • chinamike

      Dear George,

      I know we can't all be current on everything that has been said on a particular blog but I can assure you that Kirsten has been vocal in her criticism of Myngle just as she has been vocal in her praise. This combination is what makes for balanced reporting.

      Could you clarify your “rules and control for the promise of money” comment? If not sure where it is coming from or where it is going.

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  • http://www.languagesoutthere.com jasonoutthere

    Nice post Kirsten…I especially like the fact that you acknowledge your differences with them in the past. This looks like a 'way to go' situation for online teaching and learning really, doesn't it? Do you know who built the kit/library, I've not had a look yet?

    • http://kirstenwinkler.com KirstenWinkler

      I think it will be up by the middle of this week so I will definitely check it out :) . Could be interesting for EOT, right? ;)

      • http://www.languagesoutthere.com jasonoutthere

        Could be, indeed! :-)

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