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		<title>By: Into Tech - are you into technology?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Into Tech - are you into technology?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Into Tech - are you into technology?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Cool, gonna share this....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Into Tech &#8211; are you into technology?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Cool, gonna share this&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KirstenWinkler</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/converting-offline-students-to-online-students/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>KirstenWinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,
thanks for rating this post as relevant :).

Let me try to write something about all 3 points Mike mentions here. Because I think number one is crucial for platforms like eduFire or Myngle.

1) As Chris mentions, who of already successful offline teachers is willing to share a part of his payment with an online platform when it cannot offer services that are so great that you are willing to do so.
Next problem of course who wants to bring his &quot;save&quot; clients into an environment were they might get lost. This is very egoistic of course but still a good reason not to bring those clients online.
Therefore I don&#039;t believe that online platforms will see a growing of their students from this market section unless they offer teachers something interesting that cuts off these two issues.

2) The only case I can imagine for this is to profit from an offer like Myngle had with their learning boost. Bring your students to Myngle, milk the platform (student profits from low prices, teacher gets paid by Myngke) and then go back to your own website or your offline offers. Interesting for teachers and students, investment without any return for the platform.

3) There is not really one free website for teaching right now. If you want to &quot;clone&quot; a platform id the combination of free services that are offered in the internet. But you can cut it down to the two things Chris mentions in his comment. VoIP (Skype, MSN, Yahoo Messenger) and &quot;classroom interaction&quot; Google Docs, dabbleboard.com or for a virtual classroom dimdim.com or WiZiQ.com.
All the rest like own website/blog and an online schedule is icing on the cake and depends on how serious you are about teaching online.

It became very easy in the last couple of month to get free tools to teach online. The problem is of course to get students. As we are talking here about converting offline to online students we assume that the teacher already has some students. To get new students online is a whole different game and I think this is one of the main reasons to go to a platform like eduFire or Myngle. But this is an other blog post ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />
thanks for rating this post as relevant <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Let me try to write something about all 3 points Mike mentions here. Because I think number one is crucial for platforms like eduFire or Myngle.</p>
<p>1) As Chris mentions, who of already successful offline teachers is willing to share a part of his payment with an online platform when it cannot offer services that are so great that you are willing to do so.<br />
Next problem of course who wants to bring his &#8220;save&#8221; clients into an environment were they might get lost. This is very egoistic of course but still a good reason not to bring those clients online.<br />
Therefore I don&#8217;t believe that online platforms will see a growing of their students from this market section unless they offer teachers something interesting that cuts off these two issues.</p>
<p>2) The only case I can imagine for this is to profit from an offer like Myngle had with their learning boost. Bring your students to Myngle, milk the platform (student profits from low prices, teacher gets paid by Myngke) and then go back to your own website or your offline offers. Interesting for teachers and students, investment without any return for the platform.</p>
<p>3) There is not really one free website for teaching right now. If you want to &#8220;clone&#8221; a platform id the combination of free services that are offered in the internet. But you can cut it down to the two things Chris mentions in his comment. VoIP (Skype, MSN, Yahoo Messenger) and &#8220;classroom interaction&#8221; Google Docs, dabbleboard.com or for a virtual classroom dimdim.com or WiZiQ.com.<br />
All the rest like own website/blog and an online schedule is icing on the cake and depends on how serious you are about teaching online.</p>
<p>It became very easy in the last couple of month to get free tools to teach online. The problem is of course to get students. As we are talking here about converting offline to online students we assume that the teacher already has some students. To get new students online is a whole different game and I think this is one of the main reasons to go to a platform like eduFire or Myngle. But this is an other blog post <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t imagine why anybody would want to take a student to an website that takes a cut in their income UNLESS that site if offering something worth having. That might be a really, really good virtual classroom like the Adobe platform used on edufire, or it might be a really effecient booking and payment system that takes the stress out of managing one&#039;s own bookings. I don&#039;t think such a system exists - what could be easier than asking a client to pay directly into your bank account (if they live locally) or via paypal (if they live abroad)?
With a little bit of imagination and familiarity with the functionalities of skype and googledocs, for example, an experienced teacher should have no problem offering quality online lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t imagine why anybody would want to take a student to an website that takes a cut in their income UNLESS that site if offering something worth having. That might be a really, really good virtual classroom like the Adobe platform used on edufire, or it might be a really effecient booking and payment system that takes the stress out of managing one&#8217;s own bookings. I don&#8217;t think such a system exists &#8211; what could be easier than asking a client to pay directly into your bank account (if they live locally) or via paypal (if they live abroad)?<br />
With a little bit of imagination and familiarity with the functionalities of skype and googledocs, for example, an experienced teacher should have no problem offering quality online lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: China_Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>China_Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely relevant. From the position of the teacher and yes, the on-line provider, I think we need to very extremely clear about the benefits and weaknesses of each approach. Businesses run much better if everyone is in alignment.

There are at least three categories that need to be investigated:
1. Teachers who choose not to convert local students to on-line students.
2. Teachers who convert local students to an on-line website that takes a cut of their income.
3. Teachers who convert local students to a free website (with the tools they need) and continue to take the full amount.

I suspect that a great deal could be said about this. Would you agree that groups 2 and 3 need to be better distinguished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely relevant. From the position of the teacher and yes, the on-line provider, I think we need to very extremely clear about the benefits and weaknesses of each approach. Businesses run much better if everyone is in alignment.</p>
<p>There are at least three categories that need to be investigated:<br />
1. Teachers who choose not to convert local students to on-line students.<br />
2. Teachers who convert local students to an on-line website that takes a cut of their income.<br />
3. Teachers who convert local students to a free website (with the tools they need) and continue to take the full amount.</p>
<p>I suspect that a great deal could be said about this. Would you agree that groups 2 and 3 need to be better distinguished?</p>
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		<title>By: Koichi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the picture of the laptop &#039;notebook&#039; :)

I think (and hope!) that over time more and more people will become used to the idea of webcams, the internet, etc - online education is a very &quot;young&quot; market right now, just because they are the only people who really know how to utilize the net. Things are changing fast, though; Computers are coming out with built in webcams, the Internet is getting faster, etc etc. Great article, very relevant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the picture of the laptop &#8216;notebook&#8217; <img src='http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think (and hope!) that over time more and more people will become used to the idea of webcams, the internet, etc &#8211; online education is a very &#8220;young&#8221; market right now, just because they are the only people who really know how to utilize the net. Things are changing fast, though; Computers are coming out with built in webcams, the Internet is getting faster, etc etc. Great article, very relevant!</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsten Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New Blog Post: Converting Offline Students to Online Students: http://TwitPWR.com/51f/ &quot;Why not?&quot; or &quot;Why should I?&quot;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New Blog Post: Converting Offline Students to Online Students: <a href="http://TwitPWR.com/51f/" rel="nofollow">http://TwitPWR.com/51f/</a> &quot;Why not?&quot; or &quot;Why should I?&quot;&#8230;</span></span></span></p>
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